*Before we begin I want you all to be sure to come back next week when the amazing Aubrey Poole, Editor from Sourcebooks will join us to provide a more in depth look at why having a publisher is a good idea. But now for our Indie experts!
A post from Susan Kaye Quinn on Debunking Some Indie Publishing Myths, combined with Lisa Gail Green’s posts on Indie vs. Traditional kicked off a discussion between Susan Kaye Quinn and Laura Pauling (both indie authors with the Indelibles author group) on indie publishing myths, publishing middle grade, and the new hybrid author. For a peek behind the curtain at the real experience of indie authors today, check it out…
A post from Susan Kaye Quinn on Debunking Some Indie Publishing Myths, combined with Lisa Gail Green’s posts on Indie vs. Traditional kicked off a discussion between Susan Kaye Quinn and Laura Pauling (both indie authors with the Indelibles author group) on indie publishing myths, publishing middle grade, and the new hybrid author. For a peek behind the curtain at the real experience of indie authors today, check it out…
There are too many self-pub books; mine will be
lost in the pile!
NOT TRUE.
NOT TRUE.
Laura: Sue’s
post is a great list of myths (about indie publishing). (There are) so many
more too when it comes to why authors self publish and quality issues. But Lisa
has definitely covered some major
ones. :) We're never doomed unless we quit trying.
Susan: I’ve been countering
some myths on the blogosphere lately, so I collected them into a post.
Interestingly, I’ve heard less lately about the “all SP (self-published) books
are trash” meme – maybe I’m just hanging out with the cool kids now.
Laura: I see
the knocks on quality about SP from posts in the traditional world; usually
people who don't know much about it or who really don't know how to find the
well written books. I just walk away. :)
You have to publish fast to be a successful
indie author.
NOT TRUE.
NOT TRUE.
And I agree, the whole rush, rush thing is slightly
exaggerated. A career will not be made or broken based on that factor. Does
rushing books to market help? If they’re quality. And it helps get the author
to a point in his/her career where they could be full time, but it's not the
determining factor.
Susan Kaye Quinn |
I try to insulate myself from
the indie naysayers of the world – it doesn’t help to listen to people who are dissing
what I’m doing. I’ll let them play in their sandbox and I’ll play in mine.
Laura: I know
what you mean. I'm attending and volunteering at NESCBWI (New England Society
of Children’s Book Writers and Illustrators) this spring. I have to seriously
debate whether it's worth my $$ in the future. Ansha Kotyk is presenting and
will be able to sell her self-published book in the bookstore and sign, so I'm
curious to see how that goes for her. :)
Have you decided what to do with your middle grade? Query?
I'm torn about the future. I'll continue to write and self publish some
companion novels to promote my middle grade that's out. And I have another idea
for a series, that I'll self publish. I’ll see what happens.
Susan: Everything I see
still tells me that middle grade indie books struggle. Writing and publishing
really are two separate functions in my brain – I write what I love, then
figure out the best way to publish. Speaking of: has your small press
(Pugalicious) gotten good reviews/distribution for your MG
novel about the Mayans? Has that opened any doors you wouldn’t have had
with self-pub?
Laura: Honestly,
publishing with the small press has certain advantages. Pugalicious Press did
fantastic job with editing and cover design. I had a one-hour phone
conversation with a marketing specialist. I think it also opens doors for
certain contests, if a writer cares about that. I could submit for the bigger
awards.
But, over all, in all honestly, it doesn't help as far as
distribution. But, let's say, a book took off, then it would be much easier to
get into bookstores b/c bookstores would see your book as traditionally
published. So it has the potential to open doors that I wouldn't have
self-publishing.
I think querying a middle grade would be much easier
knowing I was writing and self-publishing other works. That my career didn't
hinge on that one manuscript. Middle grade is really hard, even though everyone
clamors for it. But, there is a certain freedom knowing that if they're not
interested I can go with a small press or self publish. It frees me to write
for me, not for them or what I think they're looking for. I don't think I
realized how much that influenced me until I started self publishing.
Susan: This is SO true
– and it’s really hard to explain it to people until they’ve self-pubbed and
seen it for themselves. There’s an unrestrained variety in self-pub. You’re not
locked into what publishers see as having high sales potential.
Laura: I think
some authors truly feel that self-publishing is giving up the dream. I guess if
you want to be published traditionally, than it could be. But underlying what
we've been told for years, is the dream of reaching readers, of possibly making
an income. That's never been more possible than it is today.
Susan: I think it’s
definitely ok to pursue the dream (of traditional publishing). In fact, I think
it’s imperative that you do so, if that’s your dream, until it plays out, whatever
the outcome.
Laura: I do
understand writers not wanting to take on all the aspects of self-publishing,
so ultimately it's their choice. But I see traditional publishing just as
stressful and time consuming as far as the business aspect, worrying about
selling through and the huge pressure (along with excitement) that comes with
release.
I'm so interested to see what the next couple of years
bring, but I see over and over again that 2013 is the new normal. The gold rush
is over. Now it's about self-published authors playing it smart, seeing the
long tail, producing good work, improving craft, and sticking to a schedule.
And most importantly, not giving up. If something isn't selling well - try
something else.
What do you think of the hybrid author these days?
Advantages/disadvantages?
Susan: I’m not
sure I know what a hybrid author is any more. I thought I knew – it was an
author who was trad-pubbed then went indie or who was an indie success and got
plucked from the bestseller list and offered a contract from the big six.
These days, I think less and
less in terms of publication route and more in terms of distribution,
intellectual property, and opportunities. I just finished putting out a
live-action trailer that has helped me connect with film agents who might be interested
in shopping film rights. I’m working on an audio version of Open Minds where
I’ll be revenue sharing with the narrator. And I’m exploring possibly
translations to other language. Meanwhile, indie superstars like Hugh Howey and
Colleen Hoover are negotiating print-only deals with publishers.
All these things used to be
only available to trad-pub authors, but now I see this as the true future for
hybrid publishing – managing your intellectual property through all the most
effective channels (trad-pub for print, indie for e-rights, film agents or
indie producers for the film world, indie collaborations for things like
graphic novels, audio books, and translations into foreign languages).
Indie publishing is a whole
new business model, and authors are still feeling out all the pathways to
success.
It’s a brave new world. Still.
Laura: Definitely!
Thanks for posting our emails! Of course, it's been edited down. Can't wait for the post next week!
ReplyDeleteSo interesting - the worlds of publishing are blending and the lines are really blurring.
ReplyDeleteThanks so much for hosting us, Lisa!
ReplyDeleteLoved hearing Susan and Laura's advice. They are always so generous in sharing what they've learned. I think they are right that it's harder to self-publish a middle grade book. It's great to contemplate that there are actually more options out there for us all.
ReplyDeleteLooking forward to the Sourcebook editor interview. I've been working with them a lot lately and have been impressed with their books. And they seem like a smaller press that gets their books to bookstores.
So, so interesting. Hearing about the self-pub world from those who have done it helps clear the air from what you hear from traditional-pub. Thanks so much.
ReplyDeleteWow, ladies! Great information. Thanks for sharing it. I'll spread the word for you.
ReplyDeleteLisa, I love this post! Susan and Laura, thanks so much for this awesome info. I've bookmarked this page :)
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Loving this post! So informative and inspiring. It's always great to see thoughts on indie publishing from those who've actually experienced it!
ReplyDeleteI love that the lines of publishing are blending. So many great stories to be read on both sides!
ReplyDeleteGreat information. Thanks for sharing it!
ReplyDeleteTwo of my favorite writer-friends being their usual brilliant selves! I LOVE it! They bring up such great questions and answers here. I agree about staying away from the negative people and focusing on the goal. I think Sue summed it up best here:
ReplyDelete"I see this as the true future for hybrid publishing – managing your intellectual property through all the most effective channels (trad-pub for print, indie for e-rights, film agents or indie producers for the film world, indie collaborations for things like graphic novels, audio books, and translations into foreign languages)."
Pure brilliance~
I loved this honest discussion. Thanks, ladies!
ReplyDeleteI know Susan and Laura have put their heart and soul into launching quality stories into the world so I revere their insights. Thanks for bringing them together in one place, Lisa.
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